In a conversation concerning joining DCTA with a fellow 3rd year teacher of mine... "...it's too bad, because I'm all about the idea of it, but once I met the leadership, there was just no way I could give my money to those people..."
It is too bad. Especially when I know I am still screwed into paying money to the one of the most incompetent organization I have ever come across.
Thursday, November 19, 2009
Sunday, November 15, 2009
so, it's november 15th.
So it is. today is the last day of my 15 day window to revoke my union membership.
Obviously that is impossible. I have heard nothing since I left work on Friday. Fabulous.
It's too bad I hate DCTA (Denver Classroom Teachers Association) - I was raised in a union loving home. Teacher's should not have labor unions however, we are not laborers. We are professionals. The DCTA does not act like we are professionals.
DCTA worries about career teachers - whom I have nothing against, in general. Obviously, I live with one, and she is an amazing exception to the what I am about to say. But 85% of so called "career teachers" are crap. Maybe more, I really have only met like 2 that are great. If you ask me, if you have been teaching for 10 to 15 + years, you had better be more than average. But most I meet are not even average. They do not deserve to earn more than me or many other first 10 years of teaching teachers that I have come across.
We should pay teachers for being successful. When doctors don't operate correctly or to the best of their ability, they don't get patients or they lose millions in malpractice. When lawyers don't win cases, they lose clients, and money. When businessmen are unsuccessful, they lose money.
What about teachers???? A teacher could make no significant gains with their students for 10 years and still get paid even more money the next year. It is appalling, and DCTA protects these teachers. These teachers should be fired - and principals should feel like they can fire these people without the wrath of an incompetent union coming down on them. Average doesn't cut it when you have an achievement gap running rampant in the US like we do.
I get appalled at teachers I see and I am told that they are nothing compared to what is out there in other schools. It makes me furious.
And the worst part? I give 62.50 a month to an organization that supports these pathetic excuses for teachers - that even writes letters to the DPS board and superintendent that includes a list of reasons why not to pass the current Denver plan that includes "Disrespecting career teachers and further eroding the incentives for staying in the profession."
ummm... I DON'T WANT TO STAY IN THE PROFESSION BECAUSE OF THE DCTA AND THE 85% of THOSE RIDICULOUSLY INCOMPETENT CAREER TEACHERS THAT THE DCTA PROTECTS.
I really do love teachers, at least the ones that are capable and make significant gains every year. Some of those are career teachers - and they are incredible. But many are not, and they should not be earning pennies in comparison to teachers that truly are not making a difference.
And they definitely should be forced to pay 62.50 a month to a union that supports NOTHING that they stand for.
Obviously that is impossible. I have heard nothing since I left work on Friday. Fabulous.
It's too bad I hate DCTA (Denver Classroom Teachers Association) - I was raised in a union loving home. Teacher's should not have labor unions however, we are not laborers. We are professionals. The DCTA does not act like we are professionals.
DCTA worries about career teachers - whom I have nothing against, in general. Obviously, I live with one, and she is an amazing exception to the what I am about to say. But 85% of so called "career teachers" are crap. Maybe more, I really have only met like 2 that are great. If you ask me, if you have been teaching for 10 to 15 + years, you had better be more than average. But most I meet are not even average. They do not deserve to earn more than me or many other first 10 years of teaching teachers that I have come across.
We should pay teachers for being successful. When doctors don't operate correctly or to the best of their ability, they don't get patients or they lose millions in malpractice. When lawyers don't win cases, they lose clients, and money. When businessmen are unsuccessful, they lose money.
What about teachers???? A teacher could make no significant gains with their students for 10 years and still get paid even more money the next year. It is appalling, and DCTA protects these teachers. These teachers should be fired - and principals should feel like they can fire these people without the wrath of an incompetent union coming down on them. Average doesn't cut it when you have an achievement gap running rampant in the US like we do.
I get appalled at teachers I see and I am told that they are nothing compared to what is out there in other schools. It makes me furious.
And the worst part? I give 62.50 a month to an organization that supports these pathetic excuses for teachers - that even writes letters to the DPS board and superintendent that includes a list of reasons why not to pass the current Denver plan that includes "Disrespecting career teachers and further eroding the incentives for staying in the profession."
ummm... I DON'T WANT TO STAY IN THE PROFESSION BECAUSE OF THE DCTA AND THE 85% of THOSE RIDICULOUSLY INCOMPETENT CAREER TEACHERS THAT THE DCTA PROTECTS.
I really do love teachers, at least the ones that are capable and make significant gains every year. Some of those are career teachers - and they are incredible. But many are not, and they should not be earning pennies in comparison to teachers that truly are not making a difference.
And they definitely should be forced to pay 62.50 a month to a union that supports NOTHING that they stand for.
Friday, November 13, 2009
This is long overdue.
I really really hate DCTA and Kaiser Permanente. Oddly enough, they are both organizations that remove money from my paycheck every month in a pretty substantial way. Kaiser takes about 400 dollars form me monthly and DCTA robs me of over 60 dollars a month. Together, that about makes up my mortgage payment.
This realization only make me more hateful.
While my hate for Kaiser Permanente is very deep and long standing, my hate of DCTA is fresh in my mind today. So I will start by focusing there.
This is a small peak into why I hate DCTA:
------------------------------
From: AB
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:43 PM
To: DCTA [CO]
Subject: membership
I would like to revoke my DCTA membership - I know the window is closed
on the 15th so could you please email (preferably) or fax the
appropriate form.
Fax #: 720.***.****
Thank you.
AB
-----------------------------
From: lalegria@nea.org [lalegria@nea.org] On Behalf Of DCTA@NEA.ORG
[DCTA@NEA.ORG]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:01 PM
To: AB
Subject: RE: membership
I'm sorry, but you need to come down in person to revoke membership. We will be here until 5:00 p.m.
I am leaving at 1:00, but you can e-mail Darrell at dpate@nea.org with questions or call 9303) 831-0590
Laura
------------------------------
From: Ashley
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:19 PM
To: Pate, Darrell [CO]
Subject: FW: membership
Please see my original email forwarded below.
As an organization for teachers supposedly, you should understand that
arriving in person before 5:00 is near impossible for a teacher. I was
informed that I need a form, I would be happy to drop that off after
5:00 pm when I leave school, but there is no legal reason that I should
not be able to obtain that form through fax or email.
Thank you,
AB
------------------------------
From: dpate@nea.org [dpate@nea.org]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:29 PM
To: Ashley
Subject: RE: membership
Hi Ashley,
Our offices close at 5:00pm the revocation period is from November 1
-15th that has been our procedures for years per Article 23-3. You would
need to come in to the DCTA office to sign form.
Thanks
Darrell
------------------------------
From: Ashley
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:57 PM
To: Pate, Darrell [CO]
Subject: RE: membership
I am more than aware that that is your procedure. Is there a reason the
form cannot be faxed and then dropped off? if there is a legal reason
this cannot take place let me know.
Thanks,
Ashley
------------------------------------
Because it is a three part form that requires your signature....The
forms are only at the DCTA office are you saying that you have the form.
I am only the associate staff person with no authority would you please
call our office at 303-531-0590 and I will let you talk to our
President.
Thanks
Darrell
-----------------------------------
Darrell,
I am asking for a copy of those forms to be faxed or emailed because I
have students in my room everyday until 5:00 and cannot possibly make it
to Colfax by 5:00, obviously. This conversation is making it all too
clear why I am revoking my membership.
Seeing that the window to revoke is only fifteen days and two of those
last days are Saturday and Sunday, I need the form faxed or emailed as
me showing up at the DCTA office is not possible, unless someone would
like to stay there until 6:00 so that I can get there. I am not sure why
faxing or emailing these forms is such a problem - and like I said, if
this is a legal reason that those forms cannot be faxed please let me
know and I can work on that.
Once again, the fax # is: 720.***.****
Thank you,
Ashley
--------------------------------------
Once again Ashley I cannot make that decision....please call our office
and speak to our President.
-------------------------------------
He [the president] was included on the [last] email.
-------------------------------------
Henry has left for the day. You can call our office until 5:oo and talk
to the person over membership desk Dave Szumiloski. 303-831-0590.
Darrell
-----------------------------------
This realization only make me more hateful.
While my hate for Kaiser Permanente is very deep and long standing, my hate of DCTA is fresh in my mind today. So I will start by focusing there.
This is a small peak into why I hate DCTA:
------------------------------
From: AB
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:43 PM
To: DCTA [CO]
Subject: membership
I would like to revoke my DCTA membership - I know the window is closed
on the 15th so could you please email (preferably) or fax the
appropriate form.
Fax #: 720.***.****
Thank you.
AB
-----------------------------
From: lalegria@nea.org [lalegria@nea.org] On Behalf Of DCTA@NEA.ORG
[DCTA@NEA.ORG]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:01 PM
To: AB
Subject: RE: membership
I'm sorry, but you need to come down in person to revoke membership. We will be here until 5:00 p.m.
I am leaving at 1:00, but you can e-mail Darrell at dpate@nea.org
Laura
------------------------------
From: Ashley
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:19 PM
To: Pate, Darrell [CO]
Subject: FW: membership
Please see my original email forwarded below.
As an organization for teachers supposedly, you should understand that
arriving in person before 5:00 is near impossible for a teacher. I was
informed that I need a form, I would be happy to drop that off after
5:00 pm when I leave school, but there is no legal reason that I should
not be able to obtain that form through fax or email.
Thank you,
AB
------------------------------
From: dpate@nea.org [dpate@nea.org]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:29 PM
To: Ashley
Subject: RE: membership
Hi Ashley,
Our offices close at 5:00pm the revocation period is from November 1
-15th that has been our procedures for years per Article 23-3. You would
need to come in to the DCTA office to sign form.
Thanks
Darrell
------------------------------
From: Ashley
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:57 PM
To: Pate, Darrell [CO]
Subject: RE: membership
I am more than aware that that is your procedure. Is there a reason the
form cannot be faxed and then dropped off? if there is a legal reason
this cannot take place let me know.
Thanks,
Ashley
------------------------------------
Because it is a three part form that requires your signature....The
forms are only at the DCTA office are you saying that you have the form.
I am only the associate staff person with no authority would you please
call our office at 303-531-0590 and I will let you talk to our
President.
Thanks
Darrell
-----------------------------------
Darrell,
I am asking for a copy of those forms to be faxed or emailed because I
have students in my room everyday until 5:00 and cannot possibly make it
to Colfax by 5:00, obviously. This conversation is making it all too
clear why I am revoking my membership.
Seeing that the window to revoke is only fifteen days and two of those
last days are Saturday and Sunday, I need the form faxed or emailed as
me showing up at the DCTA office is not possible, unless someone would
like to stay there until 6:00 so that I can get there. I am not sure why
faxing or emailing these forms is such a problem - and like I said, if
this is a legal reason that those forms cannot be faxed please let me
know and I can work on that.
Once again, the fax # is: 720.***.****
Thank you,
Ashley
--------------------------------------
Once again Ashley I cannot make that decision....please call our office
and speak to our President.
-------------------------------------
He [the president] was included on the [last] email.
-------------------------------------
Henry has left for the day. You can call our office until 5:oo and talk
to the person over membership desk Dave Szumiloski. 303-831-0590.
Darrell
-----------------------------------
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